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On Tuesday, Frank Gaffney, founder of the anti-Muslim 鈥渢hink tank,鈥� Center for Security Policy (CSP), interviewed white nationalist Jared Taylor, on Gaffney鈥檚 Secure Freedom radio show. Gaffney鈥檚 extension of that invite to one of the most outspoken and prominent white nationalists is a new low for a man who is used to rubbing shoulders with elected officials including a number of the GOP presidential candidates.

While Gaffney鈥檚 comments on Islam and immigration are in line with white nationalists, it is certainly out of character for him to publicly fraternize with them. However, with the mainstreaming of Islamophobia this summer, Gaffney clearly seems to be attempting to both expand his base and broaden his coalition of factions opposed to Muslim immigration to the United States.

On the show, Gaffney noted that this is the first time he has interviewed Taylor on Secure Freedom Radio, and called Taylor鈥檚 website American Renaissance 鈥渨辞苍诲别谤蹿耻濒.鈥�

Gaffney opened by asking Taylor the very title of Taylor鈥檚 article, 鈥淚s it the death of Europe what we鈥檙e seeing at the moment in terms of this migration, this invasion?鈥�

Taylor wasted no time lambasting refugees in response.

It could be the death of America if it continues. What is happening now is touted by liberals as a refugee crisis, but it鈥檚 not really a refugee crisis at all. Most of the people that are pouring into Europe now don鈥檛 have a ghost of a shadow of a claim to be legitimate refugees under the UN definition. They are coming because they have made a mess of their own countries and they want to live in a country that works better, and Europe works better than all of these places that they鈥檙e coming from. But if the Europeans do not have the nerve to turn them back, they will simply be overrun by these people who are alien religiously, culturally, and racially and that eventually will be the end of Europe as we know it.鈥�

Since 1990, American Renaissance has been one of the vilest white nationalist publications, often promoting eugenics and blatant anti-black and anti-Latino racists. In 2005 for example, after Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, Taylor wrote, 鈥淲hen blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western Civilization鈥攁ny kind of civilization鈥攄isappears.鈥�

Gaffney, in his own way, took to worrying about the future of 鈥淲estern Civilization鈥� with his usual fear mongering related to Sharia law.听

At some point there will be a very vigorous resistance to the infusion into these countries of large numbers of people who don鈥檛 assimilate, many of them Muslim who bring with them a Sharia ideological program that is antithetical to the culture and civilization and polities of European nations. Do you anticipate, as we鈥檙e seeing now evidence of increasing violence, notably against women, on the part of these refugees, not all of them by any means but some, rapes now becoming a serious problem in some of the refugee holding areas, and demonstrations and in some cases worse that are breaking out in various parts of Europe when they鈥檙e not accommodated to their satisfaction, that you may see in fact Europe devolving once again into the types of cataclysms that it has from time immemorial with, you know, blood letting taking place. Is that overreaching at this point or perhaps just a distant possibility?鈥�

In response, Taylor told Gaffney, with no intended hyperbole:

We have unleashed now what would not be an exaggeration to call almost demonic forces. We have close to a million now of these so-called refugees, most of whom are young men. They are young, single men. Most of whom have never seen a woman in a bikini in their lives. Most of them are part of, as you say, this Sharia culture that despises any woman who walks around with her face uncovered, with her legs bare. These people are going to be all sorts of trouble for Europe for many, many years to come.鈥�

Gaffney finished by saying he 鈥渁ppreciated tremendously鈥� the work Taylor is doing at American Renaissance.

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